Europe minister Caroline Flint listed five tests that have to be met for England to join the Europe. I think she forgot the most important one: desperation.

When England economy was strong, England saw no benefit in joining the Euro, although at the time it had much power to dictate the conditions. Now, being weak, it might have no choice and will have to take whatever conditions Europe is willing to offer.

And some still politicians still claim that they understand the meaning of foresight